Best Place for weight for Pinewood Derby Car (2024)

Best Place for weight for Pinewood Derby Car

Because there are MANY more factors involved making a pinewood derby car, there are many more articles to read. This article is only going to address WEIGHT.

ITEMS NEEDED

  • Completed Painted car with wheels and axles to a weight of about 4.3 oz
  • Tungsten Putty(1 oz)
  • Ruler (attached to a base so that it is standing on its edge)
  • Digital scale measuring in .001 oz (these are rather inexpensive these days. Less than $10 shipped from Ebay)

This is no secret to seasoned builders. Weight placement plays an important role in how well a PWD car will perform. There are numerous scientific equations that will explain the science behind this. Simply put the more weight you can shift towards the rear of the car, the more “potential” energy it will have. The key important term his is POTENTIAL. It is believed that the more stored energy you have, the faster your car can travel. However, the PWD world has been proven that COG (center of gravity) is the more important than shoving all the weight in the rear of the car.

What is COG? It is an important function in building a pinewood derby car. COG is the balance point of your car. This will be measured by using the ruler.There is aCOGtool on the market for those that like to spend a few extra $$$.I’ll update this once I find it again. WHY is COG important? Putting weight randomly on your PWD car is not the key to getting the most out of your build. Center of gravity placement should be between 1/2-1″ IN FRONT of REAR axle. This is true for all wheel base types whether you are using a standard wheelbase or an extended wheelbase. This has been determined not by mathematical formula, but by the PWD junkies with thousands of builds underneath their belts. I have tried to prove them different, and just came to the same conclusions as they have.

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Take notice on one particular detail. TYPE of WEIGHT. It willnot matter if your weight isleador tungsten to achieve a fast car. Do not listen to the hype. Tungsten does not make a car faster.Weight is Weight. The maximum weight is 5 oz. COG does not care whether it is wood, steel, lead, ortungsten. Before spending all your available funds on just weight, please understand this statement. FOR all my builds, I use lead as primary weight. Weight pocket (meaning how big a hole is drilled for lead) depends on car design. Small profiles will need larger pockets to offset their reduction in wood weight. For final weight, I drill a single 3/4″ forstner hole about 3/16 ” deep just in front of the rear axle. I add the remaining tungsten putty throughout this hole to properly distribute the weight according to its balance point.

This balancing point (COG)will differ from car to car due to design, type of weight, type of wood, etc. The first thought that comes to mind is thatthe most potential energy would be a weighted rear bumper. This will not give you the fastest car. (Actually this type of weight placement will give the car too much “push” and will cause your car to fishtail (move side to side) down the flatof the track. Putting the weight on the front, although gets you a slightly quicker start down the curve, does not prove to be the best weight placement for the remaining flat portion of the track. The closer to a 1/2″ COG (in front of rear axle), the more potential for a fastercar.From my experience, the closer the COG to the rear of the car, the more time it will take to tune it to its fastest speeds

For your first build, I suggest a 1″ COG in front of your rear axle. It will be the easiest to obtain. It will give you a more stable ride, will require less tuning time. Unless you have built the same design over and over, it might take some time tuning the COG. For a preliminary run at things, cut out your body. Sand it to near final sanding. Drill out the holes for you weight. If you are using the solid “plate” lead weights, it will be more difficult to distribute weight to obtain the proper COG. I’m not a real fan of these as they have a lot of ZINC in them to make things shiny and it takes up a lot of surface area to use. I am a big fan of 1x 3/8″ hole drilled behind the rear axle, with 2x 3/8″ holes in front of the rear axle as close as you can get them. Then adding 1/4″ weights. If your build can accommodate 5/8″ holes, that would only require a hole in front of and behind the rear axle using 1/2″ weights. Once you have the balancing act close, then finish the car, add the wheels, and then fine tune your COG with tungsten putty. The tungsten putty is added to the bottom of the car via drilled holes.

I suggest to bring you car (painted with wheels and axles) to a total weight of 4.3 oz. I suggest using tungsten putty for the remaining last ounce of weight. It will be a trial and error process. Take a ruler, attach it to some sort of base so that it can rest on edge side up. Mark the range of 1/2-1″ in front of rear axle of your completed car, then start the balancing game. Depending on your design, most builders drill holes on the bottom of the car to pocket the putty. Use your best judgement. You will use nearly all of the of the putty to bring it to proper weight.By leaving the extra ounce of “ballast” you can easily move the COG to the proper location. If you bring your car up to a higher weight, the less ballast material you have to adjust your COG. The extra few dollars for the tungsten putty is worth the win.

Once your COG is obtained, then the next step would be tuning your car. Click here for the NEWEST method that is making winners out of first time builders. Simple to see, simple to understand. No track needed.

Best Place for weight for Pinewood Derby Car (2024)

FAQs

Best Place for weight for Pinewood Derby Car? ›

PUT MOST OF THE WEIGHT IN THE BACK

Where is the best place to add weight on a Pinewood Derby car? ›

If the weight is placed towards the back of the car, it has longer to "drop" (by several inches) than if the weight is placed towards the front of the car. This difference is highly significant in terms of race times. Therefore, weight should be concentrated towards the rear of the car.

What is the ideal weight for a Pinewood Derby car? ›

Most rules specify a 5 oz. maximum weight. Most Pinewood Derby cars weigh between 1.5 oz and 3.5 oz (depending on design) without weights so a car may need 3.5 oz or more of additional weight.

What is the best placement of Pinewood Derby wheels? ›

Additionally, the wheels must be located directly across from one another. Finally, if rules do not prohibit, the rear axle holes should be placed 5/8ths (0.625) of an inch from the car's rear. Moving the rear wheels increases stability and maximizes speed by keeping the rear wheels on the hill of the track longer.

Does more weight make a Pinewood Derby car faster? ›

Aerodynamics have little effect in such a short race, but weight does and putting the weight at the back of the car will make your car faster on the flat of the track. Tungsten weights, in most cases, are best because of their high density. Lube the car at the body/wheel friction point.

Where should the balance point be on a Pinewood Derby car? ›

For smooth tracks, set the balance point at 0.75 to 1.0 inch in front of the rear axle. For rough tracks, target 1.0 to 1.50 inches in front of the rear axle.

How far to push in Pinewood Derby axles? ›

Push until the wheel touches the car body. The base is designed to leave the proper gap between the wheel and body. 5. The axle will need to be glued if it slips easily into the car body.

Should you sand Pinewood Derby wheels? ›

Use the high grit (1000) sandpaper to sand the edge of the wheel while spinning it with the drill. Do not over-sand; you want to sand just enough to remove the flashing. With modified wheels, you'll want to sand off any burs from the cutting process but don't round over the edge.

What is the best angle for a Pinewood Derby car? ›

Rear wheels at a 3 degree angle (camber). This greatly reduces friction as only a tiny portion of the wheel is making contact with the track. Plus, the angle makes the wheels rub against the axle head rather than the car body, greatly increasing speed.

Do you glue Pinewood Derby axles? ›

Slide the axles and wheels onto the car and glue into place. Use an epoxy or nonresin glue, and make sure you don't get any on the surface of the axle where the wheel rides.

What is the best shape for a Pinewood Derby car? ›

Pinewood Derby Car Shape: The Wedge

The Wedge is the foundation of many cool car designs, and it is designed to be aerodynamic and is a one-cut wonder.

Does paint add weight to a Pinewood Derby car? ›

(paint will add very little to the weight of your car). When your car is complete, weigh it again. If it is over 5 oz, drill a few holes in the bottom of the block about an inch behind the front axle to remove some wood. Below are several suggestions for adding weights to your pinewood derby car.

Where is the best place to add weight to a Pinewood Derby car? ›

PUT MOST OF THE WEIGHT IN THE BACK

Science says the heaviest part of your car should be about 1 inch in front of the rear axle. The idea is that the farther back the weight is, the more potential energy you have because your center of mass is higher up on the track.

Should you bend Pinewood Derby axles? ›

You will want to bend your front axle a PRECISE AMOUNT for maximum speed, ensuring the car is level front to back when racing.

Is it legal to add weight to a Pinewood Derby car? ›

Paint, decorations, decals, and weights can be added as long as the final car stays under five ounces.

Which wheel do you raise on Pinewood Derby car? ›

The wheels are a significant source of potential energy drain on a Pinewood Derby® car. Raising the non-steer wheel (typically the front left) so it does not contact the track reduces the amount of energy used to start the wheels spinning.

How to build the fastest Pinewood Derby car? ›

For a fast car, you want the add more weight to the rear. The arrow car shape, for example, has a definite pointier front and slim body with cut-in sides that lead to a flared back end. You will want to ensure that the weight is slightly heavier near the rear wheel axle, so add weight to the flared back end.

How do you drill a weight hole in a Pinewood Derby car? ›

Using a 3/8" drill bit, drill two holes into the back of the block at a slight angle so that you do not drill into the axle slot. The depth of the holes should be deep enough to hold the cylinders. Remove the clamp from the block. Insert the weights in the holes.

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